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HELLACIOUS amounts of MODs on wuarchive.

wuarchive.wustl.edu has hellacious amounts of mods in the /music directory.
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Even more can be found on the incoming…

It would take months (even years) for me to download all of em.
I just can’t beleive how many!

If somebody would like a list of all of them, I suppost I could use a little
cutting and pasting techiniques and create a list of them all…

…that is if there is interest.
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23 Responses to “HELLACIOUS amounts of MODs on wuarchive.”

  1. admin says:

    In article <1992Jun22.164120.56…@cc.usu.edu> sl…@cc.usu.edu writes:
    >wuarchive.wustl.edu has hellacious amounts of mods in the /music directory.
    >                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >It would take months (even years) for me to download all of em.
    >I just can’t beleive how many!

    >If somebody would like a list of all of them, I suppost I could use a little
    >cutting and pasting techiniques and create a list of them all…

    How about one of those people whose been putting stuff on CD-ROM
    lately, get together with wuarchive, get a tape of the MODs and make a
    MOD CD-ROM?  That would be great!!

    -gerry

  2. admin says:

    From article , by ge…@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Gerry Lachac):

    > In article <1992Jun22.164120.56…@cc.usu.edu> sl…@cc.usu.edu writes:
    >>wuarchive.wustl.edu has hellacious amounts of mods in the /music directory.
    >>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>It would take months (even years) for me to download all of em.
    >>I just can’t beleive how many!
    > How about one of those people whose been putting stuff on CD-ROM
    > lately, get together with wuarchive, get a tape of the MODs and make a
    > MOD CD-ROM?  That would be great!!

    Yeah, if it could be made readable by MS-Dos _and_ AmigaDos , with player
    executables for both machines it would be great !!

    Jaz

  3. admin says:

    In article <1992Jun22.164120.56…@cc.usu.edu> sl…@cc.usu.edu writes:
    >It would take months (even years) for me to download all of em.
    >I just can’t beleive how many!

    You can just copy them directly to a floppy disk.  That’s what I do.

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  4. admin says:

    In article <1992Jun23.153821.20…@srd.bt.co.uk>,
            jha…@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Jason Hawes) writes:

    >From article , by ge…@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Gerry Lachac):
    >> In article <1992Jun22.164120.56…@cc.usu.edu> sl…@cc.usu.edu writes:

    >>>wuarchive.wustl.edu has hellacious amounts of mods in the /music directory.
    >>>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>>It would take months (even years) for me to download all of em.
    >>>I just can’t beleive how many!

    >> How about one of those people whose been putting stuff on CD-ROM
    >> lately, get together with wuarchive, get a tape of the MODs and make a
    >> MOD CD-ROM?    That would be great!!

    >Yeah, if it could be made readable by MS-Dos _and_ AmigaDos , with player
    >executables for both machines it would be great !!

    That’s not hard, and already happens. Nearly all CD’s except for CDI ones
    comply to the ISO 9660 format, meaning they can be read on any machine. An
    executible player for both Amiga and PC could just be put on there..


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  5. admin says:

    From article , by ge…@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Gerry Lachac):

    > How about one of those people whose been putting stuff on CD-ROM
    > lately, get together with wuarchive, get a tape of the MODs and make a
    > MOD CD-ROM?        That would be great!!

    I think that copyright problems would make this undoable.  If an author
    places a mod on an ftp site he’s implying that it’s okay to distribute
    it via ftp, BBS’s, etc.  But putting it on a CD-ROM and selling it is
    entirely different, particularly when the CD-ROM is a selection of mods
    and not just a dump of the ftp site.  The act of collecting and selecting
    the mods places the publisher in a worse legal position.

    Not to mention, the CD-ROM publishers would be making the mods and
    themselves much more visible to the music industry.  A lot of mods are
    based on published works and/or contain instruments sampled from
    published works.

    Kenneth Herron                                           kher…@ms.uky.edu
    University of Kentucky                                      +1 606 257 2975
    Department of Mathematics           "Thanks to the magic of the slow-motion
    camera, we can now show you how ugly the inside of someone’s mouth can be."

  6. admin says:

    From article <1992Jun23.153821.20…@srd.bt.co.uk>, by jha…@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Jason Hawes):

    > From article , by ge…@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Gerry Lachac):
    >> In article <1992Jun22.164120.56…@cc.usu.edu> sl…@cc.usu.edu writes:

    >>>wuarchive.wustl.edu has hellacious amounts of mods in the /music directory.
    >>>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>>It would take months (even years) for me to download all of em.
    >>>I just can’t beleive how many!

    >> How about one of those people whose been putting stuff on CD-ROM
    >> lately, get together with wuarchive, get a tape of the MODs and make a
    >> MOD CD-ROM?  That would be great!!

    > Yeah, if it could be made readable by MS-Dos _and_ AmigaDos , with player
    > executables for both machines it would be great !!

    And never mind the copyright ?

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  7. admin says:

    In <sbiddle.0…@aviate.welly.gen.nz>, sbid…@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle) wrote:

    > >Yeah, if it could be made readable by MS-Dos _and_ AmigaDos , with player
    > >executables for both machines it would be great !!

    > That’s not hard, and already happens. Nearly all CD’s except for CDI ones
    > comply to the ISO 9660 format, meaning they can be read on any machine. An
    > executible player for both Amiga and PC could just be put on there..

    Don’t forget the #@)(&*)*& HFS that some Mac CD-ROMs use. Since MAC
    software also shows up on ISO-9660, I think adding a MAC player would
    be a good idea. I’d consider a Sun player as well.

            <mike

  8. admin says:

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    In article <1992Jun24.221936.12…@trl.oz.au> adun…@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Allan Duncan) writes:
    >From article <1992Jun23.153821.20…@srd.bt.co.uk>, by jha…@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Jason Hawes):
    >> From article , by ge…@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Gerry Lachac):
    >>> In article <1992Jun22.164120.56…@cc.usu.edu> sl…@cc.usu.edu writes:

    >>>>wuarchive.wustl.edu has hellacious amounts of mods in the /music directory.
    >>>>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >>>>It would take months (even years) for me to download all of em.
    >>>>I just can’t beleive how many!

    >>> How about one of those people whose been putting stuff on CD-ROM
    >>> lately, get together with wuarchive, get a tape of the MODs and make a
    >>> MOD CD-ROM?  That would be great!!

    >> Yeah, if it could be made readable by MS-Dos _and_ AmigaDos , with player
    >> executables for both machines it would be great !!

    >And never mind the copyright ?

    >Allan Duncan        ACSnet   a.dun…@trl.oz

    Well i am glad someone has noticed this problem!!!
    Well done alan.

    My friends

    U4ia of Megawatts  is not free

  9. admin says:

    In article <1992Jun24.152807.15…@ms.uky.edu> kher…@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes:
    >I think that copyright problems would make this undoable.  If an author
    >places a mod on an ftp site he’s implying that it’s okay to distribute
    >it via ftp, BBS’s, etc.  But putting it on a CD-ROM and selling it is
    >entirely different, particularly when the CD-ROM is a selection of mods
    >and not just a dump of the ftp site.  The act of collecting and selecting
    >the mods places the publisher in a worse legal position.

    >–
    >Kenneth Herron                                           kher…@ms.uky.edu

    How is the CD-ROM distribution of the Fred Fish disks any different from
    the distribution of MODS on CD-ROM? Obviously, I can see a potential problem
    with
    distributing  "enjoy the silence" or "Enter the Sandman" but then, perhaps
    not. I’m not a lawyer.

  10. admin says:

    In article 18…@bristol.ac.uk, c…@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=) writes:

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    > In article <1992Jun24.221936.12…@trl.oz.au> adun…@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Allan Duncan) writes:
    > >From article, by jha…@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Jason Hawes):
    > >> From article , by ge…@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Gerry Lachac):
    > >>> In article <1992Jun22.164120.56…@cc.usu.edu> sl…@cc.usu.edu writes:

    > >>>>wuarchive.wustl.edu has hellacious amounts of mods in the /music directory.
    > >>>>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    > >>> How about one of those people whose been putting stuff on CD-ROM
    > >>> lately, get together with wuarchive, get a tape of the MODs and make a
    > >>> MOD CD-ROM?  That would be great!!

    > >> Yeah, if it could be made readable by MS-Dos _and_ AmigaDos , with player
    > >> executables for both machines it would be great !!

    > >And never mind the copyright ?

    > Well i am glad someone has noticed this problem!!!
    > Well done alan.

    > My friends

    > U4ia of Megawatts  is not free

    Are you saying it’s illegal for PD libraries to distribute you works then ?

  11. admin says:

    In article <1992Jun26.141446.2…@srd.bt.co.uk> jha…@srd.bt.co.uk writes:
    >> U4ia of Megawatts  is not free

    >Are you saying it’s illegal for PD libraries to distribute you works then ?

    Folks, please don’t start another copyright infringement discussion….
    we can go to c.s.a.emulations for that.
    I think that if somebody made a  CD ROM of mods and sold it for around
    $25 like the ab20 archive disk, then they are certainly not making a
    killing off this,  but rather providing a service to the community.
    Most of the MODs that you find on wuarchive are quickly spread to other
    media as well, such as local BBSes etc. Nobody seems to mind that,
    and many of these systems charge a membership fee as well.
    So, if any MOD authors just plain don’t want their work included, they
    can state it and that’s that. It’s less exposure for them, no big
    deal – just their own loss, there’s tons of other stuff to choose
    from.

    cheers…
       Bo

    b…@okcforum.uoknor.edu

    p.s. flames to /dev/null  please.

  12. admin says:

    b…@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Bo Najdrovsky) writes:
    >Folks, please don’t start another copyright infringement discussion….
    >we can go to c.s.a.emulations for that.
    >if any MOD authors just plain don’t want their work included, they
    >can state it and that’s that. It’s less exposure for them, no big
    >deal …

    I said this before, but it bears saying again:

    Aside from the question of the mod authors’ desires, a *lot* of mods
    infringe on published music–stuff released by record companies.  Any
    mod based on such a song, or any mod containing an instrument sampled
    from an album, is infringing.

    No big deal up to now, but if someone put together a mod CD-ROM you
    can bet one record company or another would take notice REAL fast,
    and a wad of cease&desist orders would land on the CD-ROM publisher’s
    doorstep.

    Besides which, if someone were to sell these CD-ROMs, it’s a good bet
    that one mod author or another would suddenly decide he wanted his cut.  
    Recall how much screaming there was when someone announced they’d
    start distributing netnews on CD-ROM?

    Kenneth Herron                                           kher…@ms.uky.edu
    University of Kentucky                                      +1 606 257 2975
    Department of Mathematics           "Thanks to the magic of the slow-motion
    camera, we can now show you how ugly the inside of someone’s mouth can be."

  13. admin says:

    In article <1992Jun26.191307.14…@ms.uky.edu> kher…@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes:

    >Aside from the question of the mod authors’ desires, a *lot* of mods
    >infringe on published music–stuff released by record companies.  Any
    >mod based on such a song, or any mod containing an instrument sampled
    >from an album, is infringing.

    Actually, I have heard that when you change the format of the sound (like
    turning it into an 8-bit sample), it is no longer an infringement.  At least,
    this is what one person said when he was talking about sampling from a Korg.

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  14. admin says:

    mjbr…@lonestar.utsa.edu (Marc J. Brown) writes:

    >>Aside from the question of the mod authors’ desires, a *lot* of mods
    >>infringe on published music–stuff released by record companies.
    >Actually, I have heard that when you change the format of the sound (like
    >turning it into an 8-bit sample), it is no longer an infringement.  At least,
    >this is what one person said when he was talking about sampling from a Korg.

    Sorry, wrong.  One of the rights protected by copyright is the right to
    control creation of derivative works.  Changing the format of a sound is
    one example of creating a derivative work.

    Look, the question of what constitutes infringement is moot.  If someone
    releases a mod CD-ROM and some record company even *thought* it infringed
    on one of their properties, they’d throw about a million lawyers at the
    publisher and sue him into the poorhouse.  It happens in this case that
    the record company would be in the right…

    Kenneth Herron                                           kher…@ms.uky.edu
    University of Kentucky                                      +1 606 257 2975
    Department of Mathematics           "Thanks to the magic of the slow-motion
    camera, we can now show you how ugly the inside of someone’s mouth can be."

  15. admin says:

    In article <1992Jun24.152807.15…@ms.uky.edu>

    kher…@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes:
    >I think that copyright problems would make this undoable.  If an author
    >places a mod on an ftp site he’s implying that it’s okay to distribute
    >it via ftp, BBS’s, etc.  But putting it on a CD-ROM and selling it is
    >entirely different, particularly when the CD-ROM is a selection of mods
    >and not just a dump of the ftp site.  The act of collecting and selecting
    >the mods places the publisher in a worse legal position.

    >Not to mention, the CD-ROM publishers would be making the mods and
    >themselves much more visible to the music industry.  A lot of mods are
    >based on published works and/or contain instruments sampled from
    >published works.

    Well, maybe, but then there are THOUSANDS of scanned pics, and some of them
    are used in advertisements and the like. Besides, the guy sampling an
    instrument (usually) for his mod doesn’t expect to make money from that.

    Even if he wants to, I don’t think it’s right to prosecute anybody beacuse he
    sampled a "zing" sound from X CD from Y singer.

    A MOD CD is an excellent idea, heck, what’s the difference? the modules are
    freely distributable and there ARE companys that charge you for a floppy, why
    not for a CD?

    Count on me for the CD idea.

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  16. admin says:

    In article <1992Jun22.164120.56…@cc.usu.edu> sl…@cc.usu.edu writes:
    >wuarchive.wustl.edu has hellacious amounts of mods in the /music directory.
    >                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >Even more can be found on the incoming…

    >It would take months (even years) for me to download all of em.
    >I just can’t beleive how many!
    > (…deleted…)

    Believe it or not, I just finished getting every files under audio directory
    from wuarchive.  It took about 110 disks to get everything!  (time to buy more
    bulk disks).  It took about a week of ftping it to the terminal, transfering
    files to macII, converting it to MS-DOS file using AppleFileExchange, and
    converting to Amiga format using MultiDos (Better than CSH and Cross-dos in
    my opinion) in my amiga.  It took another 2-3 weeks unpacking it to my
    HD since most are lzh’ed, and playing them in entirety just to verify that
    it worked, and to check out the contents of the mods.  I only had 40 meg hd,
    so I loaded about 20 megs of stuff at a time to my HD and sorted them out,
    noted my favorite mods on a notebook (so i don’t forget which ones I liked),
    renamed to ensure that they are correct in titles, and make sure that artist/
    authors names are noted as well, and correct the mod prefix.
    For example, the original title would be : mod.songx. I would change it to
    songx-author/group’s name.MOD/MED instead for consistency.  I hate having
    mod as a prefix on file name.  It’s like having DOC.filename instead of
    filename.DOC.  I had to correct several songs which had incorrect filename
    because it differed from the song name.  Also, I had to check for duplicity!
    Wow, there were so many duplicate files, some under different names.  I used
    my DirMaster to catalog all mod files and found many mods with same size.
    It turned out to be that they were duplicates!.  Also there were same songs
    that had different versions and sizes, etc.  For example, mod.popcorn,
    mod.pc90, and mod.pco was the same SONG!!! only different sizes, instrument,
    etc.  How did I find out?  This song is really weird and I kept humming it
    even though I hated it.  After all that work of cataloging mods, its style
    (ie techno, rock, classic, acid, weird_strange, misc) , noting the authors,
    its ratings (1 star = worst, 5 star = best), I finally FINISHED!!!
    What a work!  Somehow, I feel more complete as an amiga owner knowning that
    I have all the works.  I am currently ftp’ing incoming directory now.
    Later, I’ll go to demos/.  I ftped about 1/3 of it already.  God, I must be
    nuts!  (Amiga freak in this case).  Has anyone finished ftping Wuarchive’s
    system/amiga directory yet?  How many floppy disks did it take?  How much
    time did it take? and how often do you ftp to get incoming stuff?


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  17. admin says:

    In article <2A4F6985…@ics.uci.edu> d…@ics.uci.edu (AmigaMan) writes:

    >Believe it or not, I just finished getting every files under audio directory
    >from wuarchive.
    >After all that work of cataloging mods, its style
    >(ie techno, rock, classic, acid, weird_strange, misc) , noting the authors,
    >its ratings (1 star = worst, 5 star = best), I finally FINISHED!!!

    Wow!  If it’s at all possible, could you send the list to a site or post
    it here?  I’ve always wanted a description/rating list for all the mods so
    I could get the styles I preferred and the best ratings at the same time.
    I’m sure other people would also appreciate it :) .  (right?)

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  18. admin says:

    In article <1992Jun29.211303.24…@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mjbr…@lonestar.utsa.edu (Marc J. Brown) writes:

    >In article <2A4F6985…@ics.uci.edu> d…@ics.uci.edu (AmigaMan) writes:

    >>Believe it or not, I just finished getting every files under audio directory
    >>from wuarchive.

    >Wow!  If it’s at all possible, could you send the list to a site or post
    >it here?
    >I’m sure other people would also appreciate it :) .  (right?)

    absolutely put it up!  I have a freakin’ time d/l’ing mods and then finding
    out after all my downloading time that the ones I choose at random suck!
    (just look for the megawatts seal of quality!  :)

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    In article <1992Jun26.141446.2…@srd.bt.co.uk> jha…@srd.bt.co.uk writes:
    >In article 18…@bristol.ac.uk, c…@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=) writes:
    >> In article <1992Jun24.221936.12…@trl.oz.au> adun…@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Allan Duncan) writes:
    >> >From article, by jha…@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Jason Hawes):
    >> >> From article , by ge…@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Gerry Lachac):
    >> >>> In article <1992Jun22.164120.56…@cc.usu.edu> sl…@cc.usu.edu writes:

    >> >>>>wuarchive.wustl.edu has hellacious amounts of mods in the /music directory.
    >> >>>>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >> >>> How about one of those people whose been putting stuff on CD-ROM
    >> >>> lately, get together with wuarchive, get a tape of the MODs and make a
    >> >>> MOD CD-ROM?  That would be great!!

    >> >> Yeah, if it could be made readable by MS-Dos _and_ AmigaDos , with player
    >> >> executables for both machines it would be great !!

    >> >And never mind the copyright ?

    >> Well i am glad someone has noticed this problem!!!
    >> Well done alan.

    >> My friends

    >> U4ia of Megawatts  is not free

    >Are you saying it’s illegal for PD libraries to distribute you works then ?

    Yes i am.  I give my music to people. Not sell it.  
    Now if someone is starting to sell my music then don’t you think I should get
    something back for it????
    Why should i make money for someone else who doesn’t give a monkeys about me??

    My friend

    U4ia

  20. admin says:

    In article <16815A3DE.AKURC…@itesmvf1.rzs.itesm.mx> AKURC…@itesmvf1.rzs.itesm.mx (Alejandro J. Kurczyn S.) writes:

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    >In article <1992Jun24.152807.15…@ms.uky.edu>
    >kher…@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes:

    >>I think that copyright problems would make this undoable.  If an author
    >>places a mod on an ftp site he’s implying that it’s okay to distribute
    >>it via ftp, BBS’s, etc.  But putting it on a CD-ROM and selling it is
    >>entirely different, particularly when the CD-ROM is a selection of mods
    >>and not just a dump of the ftp site.  The act of collecting and selecting
    >>the mods places the publisher in a worse legal position.

    >>Not to mention, the CD-ROM publishers would be making the mods and
    >>themselves much more visible to the music industry.  A lot of mods are
    >>based on published works and/or contain instruments sampled from
    >>published works.

    >Well, maybe, but then there are THOUSANDS of scanned pics, and some of them
    >are used in advertisements and the like. Besides, the guy sampling an
    >instrument (usually) for his mod doesn’t expect to make money from that.

    >Even if he wants to, I don’t think it’s right to prosecute anybody beacuse he
    >sampled a "zing" sound from X CD from Y singer.

    >A MOD CD is an excellent idea, heck, what’s the difference? the modules are
    >freely distributable and there ARE companys that charge you for a floppy, why
    >not for a CD?

    >Count on me for the CD idea.

    >-Alejandro Kurczyn S.

    So you are saying that I have no claim???
    And that even though i have written the tune, i have no right for anything???
    God, its people like you that make me wanna stop writing for the networks.
    What gives you or anyone else the right to sell MY music????

    My friend

    U4ia of Megawatts

  21. admin says:

    c…@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=) writes:
    >>>Not to mention, the CD-ROM publishers would be making the mods and
    >>>themselves much more visible to the music industry.  A lot of mods are
    >>>based on published works and/or contain instruments sampled from
    >>>published works.
    >>A MOD CD is an excellent idea, heck, what’s the difference? the modules are
    >>freely distributable and there ARE companys that charge you for a floppy, why
    >>not for a CD?
    >So you are saying that I have no claim???
    >And that even though i have written the tune, i have no right for anything???
    >God, its people like you that make me wanna stop writing for the networks.
    >What gives you or anyone else the right to sell MY music????

    I was under the impression that the "price" of the CD was only what it costs
    to manufacture.  Thus, the person isn’t making a profit off your music, but
    rather giving you a wider distribution.  Of course, I don’t know how someone
    gets off charging $25 for a CD-ROM, especially since audio CDs run about $2.00
    wholesale and are a lot more work to produce.

    Of course, I once offered to do a compilation of techno MODs and distribute
    them on an audio CD for cost and people jumped all over me.  Fine.  Stick with
    a piddly group of people booting up their MOD players in the middle of the
    night rather than making a shot at the rest of the universe.

               "What state is Salt Lake City in?" – Ticketmaster Agent

    DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
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  22. admin says:

    In article <12p0v8INN…@agate.berkeley.edu> wchu…@ocf.berkeley.edu (Chuck Woo) writes:
    >In article <1992Jun29.211303.24…@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mjbr…@lonestar.utsa.edu (Marc J. Brown) writes:
    >>In article <2A4F6985…@ics.uci.edu> d…@ics.uci.edu (AmigaMan) writes:

    >>Wow!  If it’s at all possible, could you send the list to a site or post

    >absolutely put it up!  I have a freakin’ time d/l’ing mods and then finding
    >out after all my downloading time that the ones I choose at random suck!
    > (lots of stuff deleted….)

    One problem is that my rating system is subjective (1star = worst mod, 5star=
    best mod).  I’m not too into techno and I can’t judge which one’s better or
    worse, so I just gave technos 3star, except for few really good ones, & few
    really bad ones.  My favorites are translations of musics which already exists.
    I liked EnterSandman (Metallica song).  Here are some some of samples of my
    ratings from my memory:
            5 Star : oddysey 1-5 [varying in styles, epic-cinematic]
            4 Star : Apocalypse [can't remember what it was like]
            3 star : message.fall ['I've fallen & I can't getup'--funny/sad]
            1 star : popcorn/pco/pc [Worst! Yet I can't stop humming its tune!!!]
    ^As you can see, its highly subjective system.
    Also, classifying the style was little bit difficult.
    I labeled them either techno/acid/dance, classical, rock, jazz, and unknown.
    about 50% were labeled unknown because I didn’t know what kind of music it
    would fall under.  For example, what do i do with mods with mostly samples
    and some music in the background? Or others that reminds me of New-age like
    that suddently becomes like a techno?  Also I couldn’t find authors for about
    75% of the mods.  Anyway, I just finished getting wuarchive/incoming, and I’m
    in a process of unpacking them now.  I’ll enter all the datas in my superbase
    later on and compile a list of all the mods that I have with descriptions, etc.
    Once I’m done with mods, I’ll probably ul it along with my anims and demos
    list.

    ======================================
    AMIGA — Evolution of Technology
    d…@bonnie.ics.uci.edu / eaig050@orion
    =======================================

  23. admin says:

    In article <1992Jun30.095138.20…@bristol.ac.uk>

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    c…@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=) writes:
    >>Well, maybe, but then there are THOUSANDS of scanned pics, and some of them
    >>are used in advertisements and the like. Besides, the guy sampling an
    >>instrument (usually) for his mod doesn’t expect to make money from that.

    >>Even if he wants to, I don’t think it’s right to prosecute anybody beacuse he
    >>sampled a "zing" sound from X CD from Y singer.

    >>A MOD CD is an excellent idea, heck, what’s the difference? the modules are
    >>freely distributable and there ARE companys that charge you for a floppy, why
    >>not for a CD?

    >>Count on me for the CD idea.

    >>-Alejandro Kurczyn S.

    >So you are saying that I have no claim???
    >And that even though i have written the tune, i have no right for anything???
    >God, its people like you that make me wanna stop writing for the networks.
    >What gives you or anyone else the right to sell MY music????

    No! You have full credits for your music if the credits are contained in the
    module itself on a .txt file. What I’m saying is that (to me) the guy simply
    offered to store the MODS on a CD-ROM to help us poor users with 40-50+
    MOD. disks at the cost of the CD-ROM. I understand that if someone else makes
    money from your work you should have your part, but if the guy is only
    recovering the material cost of the CD-ROM then it will be ok. The way I
    see it: I can buy 30 disks of MOD. files from a guy who compiled a collection
    and pay _only_ the disks. Why not?

    Will you be as mad if Fred Fish puts one of your mods on his disks? (and they
    are available in different CD-ROM versions).

    On the other hand, let the poor amiga user collect dozens of MOD. disks or
    "waste" several megs on their HDs.

    Saludos
    -Alejandro Kurczyn S.